
mhrazeghi58 wrote:My BS GPA is not very good. Actually I am seeking for programs that in which I will be able to cover my GPA defect with a high PGRE score. My prefered field is Biophysics and Condensed matter physics. Appreciation to your kind helps
amirpouyan wrote:there is one thing which you have ignored ... the weight of gpa for an international is much less than a domestic student ... the evidence is that the average of pgre for international students is always higher than domestic students => for admission committee the main factor for international student knowledge of physics is pgre not gpa. the reason is obvious: for international students who study in lower rank universities the educational system and grading system is less effective to include the knowledge and research ability of students. because the research is not even recognized in most of undergraduate systems in 3rd world countries. in such countries grading system is just based on memorizing some formulas. so, if my reasoning is right: students in north america must need higher gpa and lower pgre with respect to international ones to be accepted, and you can easily check that this is the case.
WhoaNonstop wrote:amirpouyan wrote:there is one thing which you have ignored ... the weight of gpa for an international is much less than a domestic student ... the evidence is that the average of pgre for international students is always higher than domestic students => for admission committee the main factor for international student knowledge of physics is pgre not gpa. the reason is obvious: for international students who study in lower rank universities the educational system and grading system is less effective to include the knowledge and research ability of students. because the research is not even recognized in most of undergraduate systems in 3rd world countries. in such countries grading system is just based on memorizing some formulas. so, if my reasoning is right: students in north america must need higher gpa and lower pgre with respect to international ones to be accepted, and you can easily check that this is the case.
A domestic student with the same GPA, same GRE, and similar research will most likely be accepted over the equivalent international student. It has more to do with the amount to fund an international student and the overwhelming amount of international students seeking education in the United States. It's hard to compare where the line is for a domestic vs an international student, but it's pretty easy to see that usually the credentials of a domestic student can be much less than an international student for similar opportunities.
-Riley
amirpouyan wrote:"i said an international with high pgre and low gpa is better by far from an international with low pgre and high gpa"
Godot wrote:The PGRE isn't the most important factor anywhere. The PGRE and GPA are basically both filters; they can keep you out of a program, but they won't get you in. You need good research experience/recs for that.
mhrazeghi58 wrote:I have a good research experience in my field of interest. Also very good LOR's. So, I can be hopeful for getting into a good program in spite of bad GPA and not very good PGRE.I am doubtful about it. I believe that GPA and PGRE are very bad filters. without them, the faculty can't trust to an applicant.
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