YellowXDart wrote:Wow, I've found this thread pretty enlightening. I knew that grad school is definitely a full time thing, but I thought I'd still have a bit of time for fun as well. I guess this is how they separate the men from the boys.
geshi wrote:YellowXDart wrote:Wow, I've found this thread pretty enlightening. I knew that grad school is definitely a full time thing, but I thought I'd still have a bit of time for fun as well. I guess this is how they separate the men from the boys.
According to your profile you are a female. Not sure how you fit into this sexist comment (don't worry, I'd be commenting on this regardless if you were male or female). I find this comment somewhat offensive ...
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P.S. Yes, I am in that minority of males (I guess females too?) who disapprove of the use of male oriented terms of "manhood" as a means of describing ability, strength, or other "classically Western masculine" characteristics.
geshi wrote:YellowXDart wrote:Wow, I've found this thread pretty enlightening. I knew that grad school is definitely a full time thing, but I thought I'd still have a bit of time for fun as well. I guess this is how they separate the men from the boys.
According to your profile you are a female. Not sure how you fit into this sexist comment (don't worry, I'd be commenting on this regardless if you were male or female). I find this comment somewhat offensive ...
I have a friend in graduate school right now who said his last 2 quarters (yes, quarter system, not semester) were not that bad. However this quarter he has joined on with a research group. He is continuing to take classes and TA at the same time. This quarter he has NO free time whatsoever. Once he gets to stop TAing, things should clear up for him a bit however. I think the work load in your first year depends on the program. I have also heard from all of my profs from UG that the first year is absolutely brutal. They compare it to junior year in my UG college. Second semester junior year I was working somewhere between 60 to 80 hours a week. I was imagining the first year of grad school to be along those lines (from what my profs said).
P.S. Yes, I am in that minority of males (I guess females too?) who disapprove of the use of male oriented terms of "manhood" as a means of describing ability, strength, or other "classically Western masculine" characteristics.
geshi wrote:I find this comment somewhat offensive ...
mobytish wrote:I think being overly PC is a little ridiculous. First off, I don't see at all how this comment describes anything masculine. Since it's meant to differentiate between inexperienced and mature, masculinity really has nothing to do with it. And, the fact of the matter is that, historically speaking, there are a lot of these terms out there which tend toward the masculine instead of the feminine and being silly about what you have decided should be offensive when the people who are supposed to be finding it offensive (YellowXDart and myself for starters) don't. Why should she be forbidden from saying a very illustrative statement simply because it refers to men instead of women? I hardly think it would have had the same effect if she had said that it separated the girls from the women (and it would have technically been just as offensive by your standards).
http://newsombudsmen.org/columns/standi ... -our-craft
That is a link to an article about one newspaper that was tempted to stop using terms such as "falling on deaf ears" because a deaf person wrote in about being offended by it. In the end, they decided that limiting freedom of speech simply because someone decided it was an offensive comment, when everyone knew that that was not the original intent of the statement, just creates an overly restrictive environment where no one is allowed to say anything. There are certainly statements that were "born" offensive, but other than that, we should not place restrictions on such silly things.
twistor wrote:stfu. Seriously.
grae313 wrote:It's a *** expression. Get over it.
Is there a problem with saying, "Separating the children from the adults" instead?
You can make whatever sexist comments you want.
geshi wrote:Is there a problem with saying, "Separating the children from the adults" instead? If the expression is about experience versus inexperience, why not say, "Separate the newbies from the veterans"? Girls from women is just as offensive to me if that were a pop culture phrase. And no, neither you or YellowXDart are "supposed" to be offended by it. I don't care if you're offended by it or not. I am offended by it. My post was only a comment in regards to the irony of the situation (YellowXDart making the comment and myself being offended). Obviously, I didn't make my intent clear. I am sorry if you don't like me being offended by comments I view as sexist.
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I'm not saying you have to think the way I do. This is the way I think. I apologize if you don't like it.
And no, I don't believe in restricting freedom of speech. That's just stupid. People can say whatever they want. However, words, just like actions, have repercussions. I am not being "overly PC." I was commenting that it is offensive to me. How is that "overly PC"? Overly PC is when someone says, "Don't say that, there might be ____ nearby." I didn't say, "Don't say that, there might be women near by." I said that I found it offensive. You can make whatever sexist comments you want. Just don't expect me to not be offended by it.
twistor wrote:Is there a problem with saying, "Separating the children from the adults" instead?
It is offensive to children.
bibimbop wrote:fact: girls rule, boys drool
kroner wrote:I feel like this shouldn't need to be explained, but the whole point when YellowXDart says it is that whatever baggage the expression carries about traditional ideas of "manhood" is in juxtaposition with the fact that she is a counterexample to those kinds of stereotypes. She will be proving herself to be a "real man", get it? hahahahaha
twistor wrote:He is clearly trying to make a bold statement to women that he feels deeply about femininity on some level. I think some men do this as a way of attempting to connect with members of the opposite sex. I don't think he's actually offended in the way a member of category X would be offended if she'd said "Kill all X and burn their babies!!"
geshi wrote:twistor wrote:He is clearly trying to make a bold statement to women that he feels deeply about femininity on some level. I think some men do this as a way of attempting to connect with members of the opposite sex. I don't think he's actually offended in the way a member of category X would be offended if she'd said "Kill all X and burn their babies!!"
You caught me red handed. Someone please come hold me. I'm so lonely. I just wanted to connect with someone.
llorgehthset wrote:bibimbop wrote:fact: girls rule, boys drool
rude
geshi wrote:twistor wrote:He is clearly trying to make a bold statement to women that he feels deeply about femininity on some level. I think some men do this as a way of attempting to connect with members of the opposite sex. I don't think he's actually offended in the way a member of category X would be offended if she'd said "Kill all X and burn their babies!!"
You caught me red handed. Someone please come hold me. I'm so lonely. I just wanted to connect with someone.
grae313 wrote:dopemasterE, I hope you registered for the sole purpose of posting that.
grae313 wrote:Don't listen to Carl. He's special.
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