Astronomy Acceptances

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Astronomy Acceptances

Postby KB » Thu Feb 07, 2008 6:58 pm

Hey guys,

I'm getting tired of wading through all of the physics grad school posts for news on Astronomy/Astrophysics schools. I think it's high time we started our own thread (not that people should stop posting on those threads, I'd just like to get our own little discussion going here).

I've heard so far from Boulder, Arizona and Hawaii and I know that sadpanda has heard from UW Madison. Anyone else?

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Postby physicsdude » Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:37 pm

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Postby physicsstudent » Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:49 pm

This is a very good idea!

I heard back from the University of Washington (Seattle) almost 3 weeks ago (accepted). I have heard nothing from anyone else yet.

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Postby shouravv » Thu Feb 07, 2008 7:55 pm

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Postby jzahid » Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:11 pm

Heard from UHawaii and UWashington, its amazing how much the offers differ in the amount of money between the two schools

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Postby KB » Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:14 pm

I thought Hawaii's was pretty good, so I'm assuming Washington was the bad one.

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Postby grae313 » Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:17 pm

jzahid, could you give us the delta-$ ??

also, you, KB, and physicsstudent should post your profiles in the profile thread (or at least as much as you are comfortable with and consider updating it after you've decided where to attend) :)

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Postby jzahid » Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:22 pm

yeah KB, that is the case. Thanks for starting this thread btw. Hawaii offered somewhere around 30K a year, which is what the i guess all their students get. UW offered me something like 1450 a month, I don't know if this is the standard offer or not.

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Postby grae313 » Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:26 pm

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: omg... i wanna go to Hawaii

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Postby phys007 » Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:56 pm

I've heard from Penn State, Princeton, and Cornell (today), all for astronomy/astrophysics.

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Postby DwightSchrute » Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:22 pm

Question: Which schools are people still waiting to hear back from?

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Postby DwightSchrute » Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:23 pm

Also, anyone looking at Planetary Science programs?

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Postby drken » Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:44 pm

I heard back from Princeton astro on 2/1. Harvard is the only other astro place I applied to (the other schools were all for physics), and I haven't heard back from them yet.

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Postby shouravv » Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:55 pm

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Postby grae313 » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:08 pm

Seattle Vs. Honolulu

According to salary.com, the cost of living is over $6,000/year more, but the increase in stipend covers that and then some. Interesting site--I'll be using that to compare financial offers when (fingers crossed) I have more than one :D

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Postby astrorabi » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:28 pm

Thanks KB to start this thread. Congrat you guys got the offers. I also apply for some astro programs. But the only news I've received so far was the rej from UT-Austin which depresses me a lot. :cry:

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Postby zxcv » Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:43 am

Yahoo Neighborhoods seems to have more locations than Salary.com, and you can just type in a city name or zip code instead of looking in a drop down menu:
http://realestate.yahoo.com/neighborhoods

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Postby tnoviell » Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:50 am

Just out of curiosity, is there a webpage with astronomy rankings? I think while I was searching for graduate schools back in my day, I never stumbled upon one. It may be helpful for future folks on the forum.

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Postby KB » Fri Feb 08, 2008 4:25 am

shouravv, I heard from Hawaii on Tues night (by phone).

Great advice on places to check for living expenses guys. I've been too busy obsessively checking my e-mail to think about practical concerns like that.

DwightSchrute: I'm still waiting on Madison, Chicago, Berkeley and Harvard. Anyone heard from any of those other than Madison?

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Postby PH » Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:46 pm

Hi DwightSchrute I have applied to the LPL (Univ of Arizona), still waiting to hear back from them (got several fingers, and toes crossed . :D).

For anyone who heard from Johns Hopkins, was it email or snail? This wait is killing me.

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Postby tnoviell » Sat Feb 09, 2008 5:31 pm

KB and other astronomy people ought to post your stats in the acceptance/profile thread.

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Postby DwightSchrute » Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:53 pm

These are the most "straight forward" graduate school rankings that I've seen online. It is based on the NRC rankings from 1995; however, the actual document was created by folks at Berkeley. Take it for what its worth.

http://www.grad.berkeley.edu/publicatio ... s_1995.pdf

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Postby physicsdude » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:57 pm

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Postby PH » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:06 am

Also I do not know if its really of any use to know the top 10-15 programs in a field. These are typically very familiar names and hard to get into. Personally I choose research over ranking any day. There's no point in applying to a top 10 program if they dont do the research your interested in pursuing.

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Postby DwightSchrute » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:55 am

In 1995 the dot com era was coming into full swing and AOL was the hottest stock around. Harvard, on the other hand, has been an icon of the educational system since before our parents were born. Point being, collegiate reputations are relatively stable and not nearly as volatile as news found in the Wall Street Journal. I'd place a bet that all 10 schools mentioned in the link posted still have highly reputable astronomy programs, even thought the idea of ranking graduate programs in a strict hierarchy is a bit absurd and also noting that there might have been slight movements up or down the charts for a few institutions. To many, knowledge of the top 10 schools isn't very useful because of their overly high standards of admission; However, to those who have received, or will receive, admission offers to schools listed in the top 10 (Princeton, UT Austin, etc.), seeing their institution listed may provide a bit of satisfaction and a sense of accomplishment.

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Postby twistor » Mon Feb 11, 2008 12:57 am

The school you go to means more if you go into business than anything else. There connections matter and you'll get them through your rich, snooty peers.

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Postby astrofan » Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:00 am

Just wondering, if a school is rejecting you, do they usually notify you or just don't respond to you at all?

thanks

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Postby twistor » Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:01 am

After everything is said and done you should get a letter formally rejecting you. It is, after all, the least they can do. If you don't get anything it probably means you're waitlisted.

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Postby DwightSchrute » Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:06 am

true, but if you look at faculty profiles and note where the professors received their Ph.D.'s at nearly any reputable school (say, top 100), you might notice a bit of redundancy. And that redundancy also seems to be a bit correlated with school rankings. Rankings are hardly a definitive source of information, but they're also not just pulled out of a hat.

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Postby astrofan » Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:41 am

After everything is said and done you should get a letter formally rejecting you. It is, after all, the least they can do. If you don't get anything it probably means you're waitlisted.


I guess that makes me feel better...

Though, I think the school I am interested in is just lazy in sending out their rejection letters. :(

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Postby twistor » Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:42 am

It's still too early to tell.

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Postby danceswithstars » Mon Feb 11, 2008 4:49 pm

I was accepted to Ohio State astronomy in late January, and got an offer from the University of Arizona last week :)

Congratulations to everyone on their acceptances and strength to those still waiting! phys007, your list is impressive, I'm waiting to hear from Cornell, too, and would be rather interested in your stats ;)

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Postby phys007 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 5:17 pm

To be honest, my stats aren't all that impressive, which is why I've been hesitant to post them here (that and I'm a wee bit paranoid). This is just a guess, but I think my strongest portion was my statement of purpose and possibly recommendation letters, which doesn't really come across in a list of GPA and GRE scores. I tried to emphasize that my past research is similar to what other schools are doing, and basically went for a holistic 'fit' rather than a summary of my accomplishments.

I read somewhere (on the internet, so it has to be true) that since women tend to score lower on standardized tests, grad schools looked at overall fit more for them. I feel like that's probably true in my case- the old advice that a SOP can only hurt you if it's terrible but won't help your chances might not be entirely accurate.

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Postby jzahid » Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:23 pm

i think the SOP is one of the most important things in our field. unless you have perfect grades and gre scores, in which case you'll probably get in most places, the SOP is the only way to highlight your best qualities and this taken in conjunction with your letters of rec which all ties in with your research experience seem to me to be the most important things. this is my second year applying. i've had more success this year and i attribute that to my SOP, which is the only thing that has really changed from last year.

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Postby physicsdude » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:19 pm

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Postby physicsstudent » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:13 pm

I have just got a call from a Harvard faculty (astronomy). I am in!
He spoke to me about the program, the visiting weekend, etc....

All the accepted and waitlisted students should be contacted by phone, or email if it is not possible by phone sometime soon.

Best wishes to you all.

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Postby tnoviell » Tue Feb 12, 2008 4:31 pm

Did you post your stats, physicsstudent? Other people may be interested in seeing them.

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Postby physicsstudent » Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:15 pm

@tnoviell

It is not that I do not want to share my stats, but I do have objections to posting personal information on the net. I did in a different forum (non-scientific), and I was identified with just little info and the people took it a bit too far!

What I believe is important to other people is that they know Harvard is already notifying people. They should assess their chances based on that. I do believe that admission to graduate school is a personal process that should be approached stratigically, and that one CANNOT asses their chances based on what others did.

I have a friend who got accepted to Harvard a few years ago. Only one A in an upper physics class: the rest just A- and mostly B+s, Bs, and B-s. His GRE physics was dismall: lower 25 percentile. BUT he was an OUTSTANDING researcher. If he put his stats here everybody will think he is crazy by applying.

Good luck everybody!

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Postby tnoviell » Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:23 pm

physicsstudent, it's fine. People here just like seeing them for other purposes, and people from next year may want to make a sort of comparison, as it can be useful for some folks. I'm already in grad school myself so it's not for my own sake, but mainly for the future folk of the forum. But, it's entirely your choice regardless.

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Postby PH » Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:39 pm

@tnoviell

i think i read in one of the posts that you are at Johns Hopkins, have they completed their first wave of acceptances. i dont know if they keep you guys in the loop or not, but I was kinda curious cos none of the ppl who've applied to the astro portion of the dept seem to have heard anything back from the dept yet.

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Postby tnoviell » Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:41 pm

PH - I am in Biophysics, which is its own department. I know nothing of the goings-on in the physics department.

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Postby PH » Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:44 pm

ahhh damn thats too bad, back to refreshing the inbox then.

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Postby littlemonster » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:02 pm

@physicsstudent

congrats! Does that mean your spot at Washington is now open? :wink:

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Postby coconut » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:05 pm

I have a friend who applied for astro at Hopkins and he was accepted about 1-2 weeks ago.

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Postby physicsstudent » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:20 pm

@littlemonster

I am going to visit the two places and then decide which is best. I have not decided yet, BUT I will make sure to let UW know as soon as I do decide not to go there. I will be thrilled to know that the spot will go to you or someone else in the list.

Are you on the waiting list? Did they inform you of that?

Best wishes to you!

ps

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Postby littlemonster » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:27 pm

@ ps

yep, I got an email a few weeks after the acceptances/rejections went out saying I was at the top of their waitlist, so I've had my fingers crossed that one of the luckier people would open up a spot for me. But you're absolutely correct in visiting both and picking the better fit. I'm really happy for you, you must be having one hell of a day today! :D

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Postby physicsstudent » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:30 pm

@littlemonster

I still cannot believe I got accepted :roll: I am really worried that someone will wake me up from this dream. I did not expect to be accepted to both of my top choices this early!

I WILL keep you in mind. I will let them know my decision ASAP, but when they let you in just remeber me and smile :D




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