secander2! wrote:Well, the current stated goal is to have data by late 2009... personally, I'll be happy if I am still in school when the LHC starts taking data
Yea, some people seem to be getting pretty nervous. CDF/D0 are definitely not conceeding. They already excluded the Higgs at 170 GeV. That would be a nightmare for CERN if the Tevatron found it, because it may indeed be the only discovery that can possibly be made.