number of natives/international =? in each department

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number of natives/international =? in each department

Postby honey20 » Fri Jan 30, 2009 12:47 pm

hi
how many international students are accepted in each department[percent]. are natives and internationals evaluated together or seprately?
thanks

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Re: number of natives/international =? in each department

Postby twistor » Fri Jan 30, 2009 3:54 pm

Natives and internationals get together to celebrate their bounty on the fourth Thursday of November.

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Re: number of natives/international =? in each department

Postby surjective » Fri Jan 30, 2009 5:27 pm

phds.org will give you this information for each school.

For example:

http://graduate-school.phds.org/univers ... ysics/1379

this gives the princeton profile. You'll see that their physics grad program is 45% US citizens and 55% foreign students with temporary visas.

the berkeley one is here

http://graduate-school.phds.org/univers ... sics/11303

you'll see that they have 78% US citizens and 22% foreign students.

Anyhow, you get the idea.

Also, if you browse through this forum (or the admissions website of any physics or astronomy department), you should get the idea that foreign and domestic students are evaluated separately. In general, there are way more foreign applicants, so it is more competitive for them.

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Re: number of natives/international =? in each department

Postby honey20 » Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:53 am

very nice information. I really appreciate .

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Re: number of natives/international =? in each department

Postby tokamak » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:19 am

natives run casinos in nevada......you should be making comparisions between domesticated white males vs international folks :D

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Re: number of natives/international =? in each department

Postby twistor » Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:48 am

And you should be talking about domestic white males, not domesticated males.

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Re: number of natives/international =? in each department

Postby coreycwgriffin » Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:59 am

tokamak wrote:natives run casinos in nevada......you should be making comparisions between domesticated white males vs international folks :D


Not only in Nevada.

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Re: number of natives/international =? in each department

Postby Helio » Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:01 am

coreycwgriffin wrote:
tokamak wrote:natives run casinos in nevada......you should be making comparisions between domesticated white males vs international folks :D


Not only in Nevada.


CAlifornia native americans for the win

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Re: number of natives/international =? in each department

Postby tokamak » Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:14 am

twistor wrote:And you should be talking about domestic white males, not domesticated males.


what's the difference??....

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Re: number of natives/international =? in each department

Postby twistor » Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:05 am

domestic: From or in one's own country.

domesticated: Tame or naturalized

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Re: number of natives/international =? in each department

Postby surjective » Mon Feb 02, 2009 12:33 pm

I've seen this sort of thing happen a lot on this forum, and it's pretty uncool: someone makes some spelling error, or awkward word choice, and several people pile on to make fun of them.

People come here looking for advice, for many of whom their first language is not English. So, if they speak (actually, type) in an awkward fashion, it's understandable.

Making fun of people for things like that is condescending and against the spirit of this site: sharing of information about grad school admissions.

Furthermore, in your careers as physicists, you will no doubt work with many people who speak less-than-grammar-school-perfect English. If you treat them all with this sort of contempt, yours will be an unsuccessful career.

So, in the interest of those looking for help, of the site, and of yourselves, please stop being condescending grammar/vocabulary police!

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Re: number of natives/international =? in each department

Postby twistor » Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:08 pm

Well they're not going to make fun of themselves.

Furthermore, in your careers as physicists, you will no doubt work with many people who speak less-than-grammar-school-perfect English. If you treat them all with this sort of contempt, yours will be an unsuccessful career.


And I hate this kind of condescending, judgemental, self-aggrandizing morality that seems to be ubiquitous on this site.

I'm not the grammar police and you're not the moral police.
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Re: number of natives/international =? in each department

Postby quizivex » Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:51 pm

Yeah, if people here were capable of overlooking a few silly remarks here and there, this place would be much less boring for everyone. The moral police really detract from the random humor that keeps users like me and twistor coming back and sharing useful information with future grad students. It's unfortunate for someone to have to refrain from saying something 500 people would laugh at knowing that 2 people are going to bitch at him.

Nobody judges anyone here for English skills alone. RG for instance was probably the coolest user of all time, and his grammar errors made what he said even more hilarious... Everyone (except the moral police) thought he was awesome. Nobody insulted his English.
RG wrote:throw parties- I do not want to throw parties, but throw myself
video games- hahaha, that is the most sucking thing I would ever do!
date a girl- i wish there were some hot chicks around ( remeber beauty and brain, of course)

I cannot dress up every now and them or do cosmetics like you phoenix coz I am a boy. o/w I think that would be a good stress releiver! hahahaha.

I am just working out and build some muscles so that after I get into 'the' school i would find some Prof's daughters (who will be business majors) and sleep with them.hahahahaha

Sprateek, on the other hand, got laughed at because the question he asked was retarded.
sprateek wrote:My BE percentage is 73 and now i am looking for GRE. can anybody tell how much score i need to get admission into Barakley or Stanford or MIT (Top 20 ) universities.......

It's all about what you say, not your English.

It's for tokamak's own benefit that he doesn't confuse "domesticated" for domestic the rest of his career... it'll save a lot of awkwardness. So it's probably best that twistor informed him of his error.

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Re: number of natives/international =? in each department

Postby tokamak » Tue Feb 03, 2009 8:28 am

twistor wrote:domestic: From or in one's own country.

domesticated: Tame or naturalized


my argument still holds....physics is not done by untamed and unnaturalized people...only naturalized people can understand nature and hence physics....according to you naturalized means domesticated...

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Re: number of natives/international =? in each department

Postby twistor » Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:42 am

tokamak wrote:
twistor wrote:domestic: From or in one's own country.

domesticated: Tame or naturalized


my argument still holds....physics is not done by untamed and unnaturalized people...only naturalized people can understand nature and hence physics....according to you naturalized means domesticated...


We seem to have hit a language barrier.




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