nvanmeter wrote:got "excellent" on all 3 of the rating sheets for intellectual merit, but i got two "very goods" and somehow a "poor" (with a "fair" marked earlier and crossed out) by the third guy...what an ass.
ouch, got demoted. That's ridiculous. That reminds me of back in 9th grade. We had these biweekly writing assignments called "themes" that were graded by a third party (someone other than the teacher). One day I was handed back a paper that had check marks in the "A" column for every category (organization, style, clarity etc...). That would've been my first time running the table and I would've been so excited... but the teacher crossed out one of the checks and marked it a B. I went to him asking what happened and he said he didn't agree with the grader... what a prick.
nvanmeter wrote:i really have no idea what this "broader impact" thing is anyway - my graduate research really isn't going to affect the world...i should be rewarded for having the realism to understand that. zxcv, i guess they want you to bullshit about how you will progress science to a new stage with your research
That broader impact *** kills so many applicants. Based on what I heard from a talk by someone on that committee, they basically want you to go way out of your way to do something that, in my opinion, clearly shows you're trying to play games to win an award like the NSF, such as run programs that bring science activities to disadvantaged inner city kids. As if, for instance, becoming a fusion scientist doesn't show concern for humanity and have broad impact, they want us to distract ourselves with petty games.
Congrats on NSDEG though!
I felt the same way about the Goldwater scholarship, after realizing you're disqualified if you haven't done independent research. I should be praised, not disqualified, for realizing I won't be creating original work in physics as a second year undergraduate.
zxcv wrote:So I looked at my rating sheets, and apparently although my Intellectual Merit was "excellent" or "very good" my Broader Impact was only "good."
Ouch, they pwned you too.
vroomfondel wrote:no money, but does this count for moderate cv padding?
no, only the winners can be successful in life, listing an hon mention on a CV is as bad as saying you came in second place in a duel...