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Postby funkoliteus » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:30 pm

twistor:

Yes, McGill is accredited. During my fellowship I met an alumni from McGill and he seemed to know his stuff. My mentor also spoke highly of the program.

My degree will be a BSc in Physics.

The mentor I had was certified in both imaging and radiation therapy. He let me borrow an AAPM study book for the boards and most of the questions I saw were based on clinical experience. It seemed pretty simple, but I guess he had a colleague who failed them twice.

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Postby twistor » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:34 pm

How does one become certified in both? Residency programs?

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Postby cancelled20080417 » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:35 pm

JESUS CHRIST!!!!

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Postby funkoliteus » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:41 pm

He began his career in imaging, but then got tired of traveling so frequently and then fell into a radiation therapy position. So he knew both sides based on work experience without residency programs.

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Postby twistor » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:47 pm

Very interesting...Why is there so much traveling in imaging?

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Postby funkoliteus » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:57 pm

In his case he traveled a lot because he didn't work for one hospital. Instead, he was given responsibility for many machines in a given region. I don't think he worked for any one company like GE or Siemens. I think he was contracted out by a private company who specialized in quality assurance of medical imaging equipment. Even when I was there he would get offers to QA dentist's x-ray equipment (he was on a list made by the state), but those jobs are small and wouldn't sustain a high enough income unless he traveled around. This was the only perspective I saw from the imaging side, but I am sure that there are many other ways to have a career in diagnostic imaging.

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Postby cancelled20080417 » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:00 am

oh lord!

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Postby hchemist » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:04 am

RG: JESUS CHRIST!!!!


RG stop peeking here! Or else, you might end up regretting not applying to medical physics program :lol:

And if you have time, teach me how to quote people's post. -_-;

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Postby twistor » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:06 am

funkoliteus:

It's reassuring to know that traveling is a rare occurance. I hate traveling.

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Postby twistor » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:10 am

hchemist:

When you're replying to a message you'll see a list of icons over the message box. "Quote" is one of them.

Paste in the text you want to quote and highlight it in the message box. Then click the quote icon. Alternatively, just paste in the text and surround with the tags (quote) and (/quote), replacing the ('s and )'s with ['s and ]'s respectively.

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Postby hchemist » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:10 am

Twistor:Sorry I didn't see this before. The way I understand is that unless you graduate from a CAMPEP program you have to have 3 years of work experience to take the exam (supposedly this will go into effect in 2012 as you said).

That is already settled. Right now, you need 3 years of clinical experience directly under the board certified medical physicist's supervision. However, if you're from CAMPEP accredited program, you only need 2 years of such experience. That is why most of us here will go through this same '***' again for admission into the residency program.

And the rumor I talked about is something different but much more serious, this is quote from Wikipedia

"As CAMPEP continues to gain support from bodies such as The American Association of Physicists in Medicine[5], the American Board of Radiology has specified that graduation from a CAMPEP accredited clinical training program be considered a requirement to sit for the ABR certification exams by 2012.[6][7][8]"

So go figure

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Postby hchemist » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:14 am

Hello World!


Hmmmmm....hahahahahahahaha!

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Postby twistor » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:19 am

I'm looking forward to doing a residency. I want a diverse range of experience so I can choose the best career path. Even if I end up doing a Ph.d. in imaging, which I probably will, I'd still like to be involved in the radiology side of things. I'm glad they're not considered mutually exclusive.

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Postby hchemist » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:24 am

I am interested in making linear accelerator and such for proton therapy like medical purpose. So my primary goal is to get post doctoral position after my ph.d. Although I don't really mind getting residency as well.

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Postby twistor » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:33 am

I wanted to avoid the whole post-doc scene. It's always on the table, but I know that it's not really required like it would be in pure physics.

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Postby victory118 » Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:58 am

funk: I was going to apply to McGill as well, but was turned off by the international student tuition (about $12k/year as opposed to $1.5k for Canucks). Also, it seems like they don't allow you to apply directly for the PhD program because you have to complete a masters first. Thus, there is even less of a chance to get funding. Anyhow, I hear the school is one of the best in Canada and North America. I have a friend that attends McGill and she loves it and the surrounding city very much.

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Postby GTPHYS91 » Thu Feb 07, 2008 2:00 am

Chicago said they don't consider GRE scores very seriously and that most of their admitted students are in the 50th percentile on the Physics GRE. They said they do consider GPA and school reputation very seriously. Chicago is accredited. You can verify that here:

http://www.campep.org/campeplstgrad.asp

I got Penn's financial offer today - tuition plus $18,000 stipend a year. That's not going to be enough considering I'm the worst driver in history and I need to pay for car insurance with that money.

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Postby hchemist » Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:10 am

I got Penn's financial offer today - tuition plus $18,000 stipend a year. That's not going to be enough considering I'm the worst driver in history and I need to pay for car insurance with that money.


Wow, that's really good deal. Ivy school really is something! Congrat!

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Postby twistor » Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:35 am

I got Penn's financial offer today - tuition plus $18,000 stipend a year.


If that's too little what are you going to do? Madison is only offering $1500/mo = $18000 a year, too. Chicago might be more, they don't really say.

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Postby GTPHYS91 » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:42 am

Chicago is $26,000 a year plus tuition. If it's not enough I'll probably just take out a loan or two to make it enough.

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Postby funkoliteus » Thu Feb 07, 2008 10:49 am

victory118:

Yeah it's really costly the first year. If you can make it through that, I think you become a resident and pay the $1,768 as a Quebec resident. The second year there is more financial aid available. As far as the PhD program, I spoke with an alumni who got into a PhD program with no problem, but after the first couple months got offered a six figure salary over in Vancouver so he took the job instead of getting his PhD. I have asked myself what I would have done in his situation and I think I am committed towards the doctorate, but it would be very tempting!

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Postby twistor » Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:17 am

That's a tricky situation. I might have taken the cash. It would depend on the job and it's prospects.

Chicago is $26,000 a year plus tuition. If it's not enough I'll probably just take out a loan or two to make it enough.


Is that on their website? I looked and I couldn't find it. Or is that just their standard RA salary? I'm sure they pay more because they admit fewer people....

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Postby twistor » Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:23 pm

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Postby victory118 » Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:39 pm

I still haven't heard back from UW, but when is it anyway?

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Postby hpharty » Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:29 pm

I work at a non-profit that deals with medical technologies. This morning I saw an awesome presentation on some new imaging and radiotherapy equipment. The whole thing (and this thread) kind of makes me wish I had applied to some medical physics programs.

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Postby marten » Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:34 pm

twistor,

OMG

I was reading Chicago's web page:

Quote:
The Graduate and Professional School Financial Aid Service (GPSFAS) application form must accompany requests for financial aid.


I didn't fill this out! Was I supposed to? I thought aid was automatic!


I know, I saw the same info for two of my schools in the AIP data. Here is the response I got to my post:

forum/viewtopic.php?t=987

I emailed both schools, and got a response from one saying that my application was complete. That's all. So I don't know what is up with the GAPFAS. Some of my apps had little check boxes to click "Would you like to be considered for financial aid?" Duh....

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Postby twistor » Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:12 pm

I work at a non-profit that deals with medical technologies. This morning I saw an awesome presentation on some new imaging and radiotherapy equipment. The whole thing (and this thread) kind of makes me wish I had applied to some medical physics programs.


Yeah, there is a lot of interesting stuff happening in the field right now. I like it because it's a mix of experimental work, clinical work, and physics research. The programs are really small and very focused and I don't think it suffers from the academic snobbery that so plagues so-called "pure" physics. I think part of that is due to the fact that medical physicists actually have to remain in contact with the real world and deal with everyday people and that keeps them grounded. So far everyone I've talked to in the field has been awesome, incredibly helpful and a wealth of information. I don't get that same vibe from the purists.

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Postby twistor » Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:14 pm

Marten,

Thanks. That's relieving to know. I remember them telling me my application was complete, but then again they also admitted they never found the supplemental materials I sent them...

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Postby hchemist » Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:16 am

Hey, I am going to UWM open house as well. Just heard it today after my UCLA interview. Awesome! :lol:

Also, among you who were at the UCLA, come on out! I'm willing to reveal my identity if you do but you probably already figured it out if you were here at L.A. :oops:

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Postby twistor » Sat Feb 09, 2008 11:29 am

hchemist:

Congratulations!

But I'm not willing to reveal my identity. Sorry, but I prefer anonymity.

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Postby hchemist » Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:06 pm

@twistor: thanks and that's fine. :wink:

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Postby victory118 » Sat Feb 09, 2008 8:44 pm

Congrats hchemist! Now chances are really looking slim for me...

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Postby funkoliteus » Sat Feb 09, 2008 10:20 pm

hchemist, congrats! Hey victory118, I haven't heard from those cheese eaters either. I share your pessimism...

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Postby Geoff Olynyk » Mon Feb 11, 2008 11:48 am

Hello, joining in this thread late. I'm an international student (Canadian).

Applied to:

MIT, Physics (plasma physics)
MIT, Nuclear Science & Engineering (fusion reactor technology)
Princeton, Physics (plasma physics at PPPL)

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Postby hchemist » Mon Feb 11, 2008 1:52 pm

Errrrr..........finally, someone puts an end to this!

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Postby hchemist » Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:47 pm

I just got rejected from Stanford Biophysics but accepted from Duke.

Duke says, they will admit me as a master student first with financial aid limited to maximum 10,000 and minimum 2000 us dolors. So now, I've heard from all 7 schools except Chicago.
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Postby GTPHYS91 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:05 pm

I got rejected from Duke's Ph.D. program and they offered me consideration as a master's student. Same funding as hchemist. I told them I didn't want to waste their time by being considered as a master's student because there's no way I'm living in the dirty south anymore.

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Postby tnoviell » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:08 pm

That whole area around the medical physics department is really crappy anyway.

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Postby GTPHYS91 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 7:46 pm

Real cute Duke. Denying me and accepting me all at once. Real...***...cute.

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Postby twistor » Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:15 pm

I've never heard of someone being accepted for a degree they didn't apply for. I actually think that Duke's offer to you both is very insulting. $10,000 is a slap in the face. Any decent school will offer you twice that in financial aid.

What do they expect you to do the rest of the time to support yourself? Part-time job at Wendy's?

This makes me glad I didn't apply to Duke. I saw they were accepting only a few Ph.d. students a year and I knew something had to be up. So this explains it. They're turning down Ph.d. students and trying to get masters students. It doesn't really make sense. You're good enough to pay us money for two years but not good enough for us to let you do some real work?

*** Duke.

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Postby GTPHYS91 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:21 pm

Is Duke's program even good? I hardly know anything about it. Do you know how many Ph.D. students they were supposed to take this year?

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Postby tnoviell » Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:24 pm

I applied to Duke last fall, and I went to one of their open house weekends. They barely accept anyone, and as a matter of fact, I never talked to one Ph.D student - they were all Masters. But yes, their program is good - it's fairly new and flexible, which is cool.

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Postby twistor » Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:28 pm

Sounds like Duke is cashing in to me. Bring in masters students, make 'em pay for classes, send them on their way. Turnover time is roughly two years for a masters so they have a steady stream of graduate student cash.

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Postby GTPHYS91 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:30 pm

Just curious...how many of you who applied to Chicago submitted a writing sample beyond the personal statement?

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Postby twistor » Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:32 pm

I don't know anything about Duke's program. All I know is Duke (the entire university) is pretty well respected, but you can only take that so far. Being selective doesn't necessarily mean they have a big program. In fact, I'm guessing they're not doing too much research if they can't support a fair number of graduate students.

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Postby twistor » Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:35 pm

how many of you who applied to Chicago submitted a writing sample beyond the personal statement?


I tried to submit a writing sample but they lost it. Chicago hasn't exactly impressed me with its organization. I know it's a good school but I'm just getting a bad vibe from them.

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Postby hchemist » Mon Feb 11, 2008 8:58 pm

I've never heard of someone being accepted for a degree they didn't apply for


I know a girl who applied Northwestern as a Master, but she was offered Ph.D

how many of you who applied to Chicago submitted a writing sample beyond the personal statement?


I didn't. I really didn't follow Chicago application to the mighty detail after hearing from UCLA.

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Postby victory118 » Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:13 pm

lol that's funny guys. I bet we all got the exact same email from Duke..."Dear Applicant..."

hchemist: How did your interview at UT-Houston and UCLA go? Do you know if they are still considering applications? Do I still have any hope for those two schools???

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Postby twistor » Mon Feb 11, 2008 9:28 pm

I know a girl who applied Northwestern as a Master, but she was offered Ph.D


At least that's less insulting.




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