TakeruK wrote:Yes, applicants from the same international university have been accepted to the same US grad program in the same year before. Many programs actually list their students. For example, here is Caltech's Physics department entering classes: http://www.pma.caltech.edu/GSR/gradclasslist.html
If you click on the 2011 class, http://www.pma.caltech.edu/GSR/gradclass2011.html, you can see that there were two students accepted from MIPT (Moscow) and 4 students admitted from National Taiwan University. In the 2010 year, there were 2 students from IIT Kanpur and 1 student from IIT Delhi.
Disclaimer: This is not the department I work in, so I don't know any of these people. There might have been other circumstances, but if you look through the many years there, I think there is enough data to convince me that it doesn't matter if there is more than one applicant from the same school!
However, you should keep in mind what I said above, that graduate students from international locations tend to cost more! For example, I know that many of the UC schools (e.g. Berkeley) only has a 10% international student population. So even if the entering class is something like 20-30 students, that is only 2-3 international students, and just because of numbers, this means it's much less likely for both the 2 international students will be from the same school! In contrast, at Caltech, there is no cost difference between an international and domestic student (usually true for private school). In 2012, when I entered Caltech, 40% of the new grad students were international (including me)!
Basically, it is probably pretty rare to see multiple students from the same international undergrad/masters school entering the same program in the US in the same year, but this is mostly because of limited space/funding for international students, not because of any active decisions to not accept students from the same school.
hermitw wrote:Hi TakeruK, I also remember that some website said berkeley has fewer internationals than other top programs. Does this mean that for us internationals, berkeley or even UCSB is harder than MIT to get in? On the other hand, I know a chinese university sometimes have 3 offer from berkeley but only one from harvard and princeton.
TakeruK wrote:hermitw wrote:Hi TakeruK, I also remember that some website said berkeley has fewer internationals than other top programs. Does this mean that for us internationals, berkeley or even UCSB is harder than MIT to get in? On the other hand, I know a chinese university sometimes have 3 offer from berkeley but only one from harvard and princeton.
I think so, but we have to remember to be careful with statistics when dealing with small numbers! For example, the programs that I applied to only accept 5-6 students per year, which means probably only 1 international student every other year. At these places, I would be confident to say that it is harder for an international student to get into e.g. UC Berkeley Astronomy than a private school like Cornell or Harvard. My advisors predicted I would not get into any UC school, but I would do okay applying to private schools that might be higher ranked, and they were right.
If you are comparing slightly bigger programs, e.g. physics, between schools like Berkeley and Harvard/Princeton, I think again, small numbers statistics play an important role. For instance, is 3 offers from Berkeley really statistically significant from 1 offer from Harvard/Princeton? Maybe that year, Harvard/Princeton made more offers to international students at different Chinese university or different countries. Also, bigger schools will tend to work on long term averages. A big department may have the ability to take on extra international students one year and then take fewer in later years.
So I think we should be careful trying to apply broad, long term averages to specific schools at specific times. If you see a program that interests you, don't worry about the long term averages -- apply to it anyways. I think the most useful conclusion from the above trend is that on average, it is harder to get admitted as an international student and we should be aware of that. Also, it might be a surprise (it certainly was for me) to find out that because of the funding costs to public schools, it might be easier for an international student to get into a private school than a public school. So, don't let the big fancy name/reputation scare you.
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