Rank 5 IVIES

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Rank 5 IVIES

Postby cancelled20080417 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:28 pm

Ranking of YALE, BROWN, COLUMBIA, U PENN and DARTMOUTH in condensed mather ( theory or exp)
Any idea?
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Postby twistor » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:28 pm

No clue.

EDIT: still no clue.

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Postby cancelled20080417 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:29 pm

damn it... i want to hear ranking from twistor.. u gotta rank these programs :evil: :twisted:

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Postby twistor » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:30 pm

Uhm.. ok....

Let's go with

BROWN, COLUMBIA, DARTMOUTH, U PENN, YALE in that order.

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Postby will » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:30 pm

columbia
yale
u.penn
brown
dartmouth

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Postby quizivex » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:30 pm

Ok I believe they should be ranked like this:

1) Brown
2) Columbia
3) Dartmouth
4) Penn
5) Yale

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Postby twistor » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:31 pm

quizivex:

Stop stealing my ideas.

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Postby cancelled20080417 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:31 pm

guys I am serious ok!

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Postby quizivex » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:31 pm

WTF?? LOL!!!

you beat me by seconds!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Postby cancelled20080417 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:32 pm

how did quiz steal ur idea twistor
EDIT : ***, every one is posting at the same time. WTF. lmao

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Postby twistor » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:33 pm

Compare our posts.

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Postby will » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:33 pm

Columbia has Boris Altschuler, so it wins. The rest I ranked in order of general physics reputation and a quick look at their CMT faculty page. Screw experiment.

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Postby cancelled20080417 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:35 pm

will, but CM exp is imp too. LEt us rank them again including exp also. plz.

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Postby quizivex » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:38 pm

Ok now just for CM experiment:

1) Pennsylvania
2) Dartmouth
3) Columbia
4) Brown
5) Yale

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Postby cancelled20080417 » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:41 pm

include both CM exp and theory. lmao

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Postby VT » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:43 pm

interesting! Do you any of you guys know how is Wisconsin-Madison compared to any of these Ivies in cmt or exp?

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Postby will » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:44 pm

Okay, I did a little more research this time, but my list stands as is.

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Postby will » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:45 pm

I'd say UWM is better than brown or dartmouth, worse than columbia, and somewhere around yale or penn.

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Postby fermiboy » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:45 pm

I would rank Yale slightly above Oral Roberts University and slightly below the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary.

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Postby fermiboy » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:46 pm

I think Dartmouth's the best because they're the only Ivy I applied to that hasn't rejected me.

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Postby quizivex » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:47 pm

whoa i just checked and those two schools actually exist... how lame lol!

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Postby will » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:47 pm

UWM's physics department chair is a CMT person, and actually one of the people I'd really like to work with.

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Postby quizivex » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:50 pm

FYI: I'm about to take a nap, good nite!

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Postby twistor » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:51 pm

Susan Coppersmith?

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Postby VT » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:52 pm

UWM is a good program but is not Brown as good as UWM? Their research seem to be fairly similar.
i did not like Coopersmith research. i like Vavilov's research. He is a young Prof from Cornell.

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Postby will » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:58 pm

Yeah, Coppersmith. Applications of renormalization to computational complexity makes me all giddy inside. Vavilov's research is awesome too, but my advisor told me he's very Russian. In a way that made me feel he might not be pleasant to work with.

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Postby twistor » Fri Feb 15, 2008 9:59 pm

I saw a talk by Coppersmith awhile back. She seems like a very down-to-earth person who would be fun to work with.

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Postby will » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:02 pm

Now the trick is to get admitted sometime soon.

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Postby VT » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:03 pm

will, I am accepted at Wisc-Madison and I am meeting Prof. Vavilov during the openhouse. Why do you think he is very Russian and what does that exactly mean?

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Postby twistor » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:08 pm

It means if he is your advisor you shouldn't expect him to help you very much.

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Postby fermiboy » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:09 pm

I wish I would have applied to Wisconsin. :(

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Postby VT » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:12 pm

fermiboy, you still have a good shot at berkeley and UIUC. why is UIUC not sending any replies to 700 club as of yet? I hate them all.


EDIT: oh my.. I was thinking of considering him as my potential advisor. I am freaking out now. But Vavilov is very young and has not supervised any students yet.Also he is very active. Anyways, we will see after i meet him during my visit.

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Postby will » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:15 pm

The Russians that I've worked with, here at least, have all been exceptionally good physicists. They've also been inordinately demanding, and expect you to be on the same page as them at all times. You need to stop and think about something? Too bad. You should remember that result from 3rd grade physics!

I don't know; I think his research is interesting and I'd gladly meet him before writing him off; I'm just conveying what my advisor told me.

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Postby twistor » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:20 pm

I think any foreigners who want to teach in the American educational system should have to participate in 1 year of training in a class called "Introduction to the American Educational System."

There they will be taught that:

Americans do not learn calculus in grade school.

Americans do not do physics in grade school.

Americans are required to take many NON-science courses.

American education focuses on understanding and not memorization.

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Postby VT » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:21 pm

will, do you go to school in Madison?

EDIT : I am also meeting Prof. Ericksson's group and Prof.Rzchowski from CM exp.

EDIT : but GRE is the test of memorization. :?
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Postby will » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:26 pm

No; I haven't posted where I go to school because we don't have many undergrads and I'd be very easy to identify. My research advisor gives talks there from time to time though.

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Postby VT » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:30 pm

okay. I am still waiting to hear from UCSD. They've excellent program in CMT and exp, too, so I do not know if I will go to UWM for sure. I do not when the hell will they start sending their decisions though.

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Postby dlenmn » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:40 pm

@ VT

I've heard good things about Ericksson -- I have a prof who collaborates with him. Going to meet with him as well.

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Re: Rank 5 IVIES

Postby VT » Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:36 pm

dlenmn, how would you compare Brown with UWM?

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Re: Rank 5 IVIES

Postby dlenmn » Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:50 pm

We're in the same boat again. Not sure, it's been a while since I did the research. I remember being more interested in the UWM research, and UWM certainly has more groups to choose from.

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Re: Rank 5 IVIES

Postby VT » Thu Feb 28, 2008 7:03 pm

yes, dlenmn, I saw you were accepted from Brown. Now, I am only waiting from UIUC and UCSD. Do you have any idea if UCSD send offers in two rounds or something?

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Re: Rank 5 IVIES

Postby dlenmn » Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:21 am

VT wrote:Do you have any idea if UCSD send offers in two rounds or something?


I've got no inside info, but here's the data from gradcafe (you'd almost think using that site is my passion... scary, no?). It's kind of hard to judge, but there are no records of people getting in during March last year (or after 2/14 for that matter) but that's not the case the previous year. This year, people got in on 2/19. Not sure what it all means.




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