relativity energy

ryan6
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relativity energy

Postby ryan6 » Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:42 pm

I am trying to self study this stuff.

I do not understand the difference between

E = \gamma m c^2

and

E^2 = (pc)^2 + (mc^2)^2

Are these the same thing, how do I know when to use which?

On problem 20 on test 8677, grephysics.net says to use the first one. But when I try to use the second one, I keep getting 0.6c, which is wrong and I do not understand why. Thanks

iplayterran
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Re: relativity energy

Postby iplayterran » Tue Aug 24, 2010 2:25 pm

Yes they are the same thing. From the second one if you substitute p=\gamma m v you recover the first equation.

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Re: relativity energy

Postby Skullgrid » Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:13 pm

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ryan6
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Re: relativity energy

Postby ryan6 » Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:59 pm

It seems like a lot of the relativity problems that I have run into on GRE stuff are simply time dilation/length contraction. Is it worth practicing and memorizing the full Lorentz transformation equations? I always have trouble with determining the order of events and remembering the time transformation equation but dont want to cram anymore in than I have to at this point

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Re: relativity energy

Postby CarlBrannen » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:28 am

Time dilation and length contraction both use \sqrt{1-v^2/c^2} which is a little less than unity for small velocities. Just remember to multiply or divide by it in such a way that time gets increased (dilated) while length gets decreased (contracted).

ryan6
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Re: relativity energy

Postby ryan6 » Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:43 am

yeah, youre right. Iv got that. But im talking about applying transformation to events using

t' = \gamma(t-\frac{v}{c^2}x)

I havent run into those types of problems (or velocity addition problems) on GRE stuff yet

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Re: relativity energy

Postby HappyQuark » Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:12 pm

ryan6 wrote:yeah, youre right. Iv got that. But im talking about applying transformation to events using

t' = \gamma(t-\frac{v}{c^2}x)

I havent run into those types of problems (or velocity addition problems) on GRE stuff yet


Here is an example of velocity addition and time dilation on PGRE 9277

http://physicsgrad.com/pgre/9677-37/
http://physicsgrad.com/pgre/9277-38/




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