8677 #51

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8677 #51

Postby Maxwells_Demon » Mon Sep 29, 2008 5:46 am

http://grephysics.net/ans/8677/51

I'm torn between A and B. How is A incorrect?

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Re: 8677 #51

Postby Imperate » Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:30 pm

Hey, I thought exactly the same thing when I first did this question. Whilst I accept B is true, I find it hard to negate choice A. Since by equipartition, each degree of freedom has 1/2kT, and each atom has 3 kinetic degrees of freedom, 3 potential degrees of freedom, suggesting its average energy is 6*1/2kT=3kT.
Maybe it has something to do with the fact equipartition only applies at high temperatures, and is not a general feature of the Einstein or Debye model, rather just a limit.

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Re: 8677 #51

Postby Maxwells_Demon » Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:00 am

For Debye, A is only true for T >> Td where Td is Debye temperature. that's why...

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Re: 8677 #51

Postby muonman » Sun Oct 12, 2008 6:14 pm

Choice (A) would be correct if we were talking about ideal gases. Except, we're not dealing with gases! We're dealing with a solid. In a solid, think of a 3 dimensional spring mattress. You have an atom in the middle forked by six springs in the three dimensions. Thus you don't have "3 translational" + "3 vibrational" degrees of freedom, which would lead us to the incorrect choice (A). You only have 3 vibrational.




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