Entropy:A concept that is not Physical Quantity

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zhshfeng
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Entropy:A concept that is not Physical Quantity

Postby zhshfeng » Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:42 am

Entropy:A concept that is not Physical Quantity

shufeng-zhang China
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This paper demonstrate entropy is not a physical quantity.
We define heat engine efficiency η as: η= W/W1, that is, replacing Q1 in the original definition η=W/Q1 with W1, W still is the net work of the heat engine applied to the outside in one cycle, W1 is the work the heat engine applied to the outside in the cycle, then, we use Stirling cycle as the element reversible cycle , if ∮dQ/T =0 is tenable, we can prove ∮dW/T =0 and ∮dE/T =0.
If the formula ∮dQ/T=0, ∮dW/T=0 and ∮dE/T=0 can really define new system state variables, it comes to the absurd result of such a definition.
In fact, during the process of obtaining “entropy”, ∑[(ΔQ)/T)] become∫dQ/T is untenable, therefore, the formula ∮dQ/T=0, ∮dW/T=0 and ∮dE/T=0 are untenable.
The“entropy”defined by Boltzmann is used to interpret “entropy” by Clausius, so, it is at the same time denied.


http://www.yudu.com/item/details/234797 ... l-Quantity

cesascencio
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Re: Entropy:A concept that is not Physical Quantity

Postby cesascencio » Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:42 pm

zhshfeng wrote:Entropy:A concept that is not Physical Quantity

shufeng-zhang China
Email:uhsgnahz@126.com
This paper demonstrate entropy is not a physical quantity.
We define heat engine efficiency η as: η= W/W1, that is, replacing Q1 in the original definition η=W/Q1 with W1, W still is the net work of the heat engine applied to the outside in one cycle, W1 is the work the heat engine applied to the outside in the cycle, then, we use Stirling cycle as the element reversible cycle , if ∮dQ/T =0 is tenable, we can prove ∮dW/T =0 and ∮dE/T =0.
If the formula ∮dQ/T=0, ∮dW/T=0 and ∮dE/T=0 can really define new system state variables, it comes to the absurd result of such a definition.
In fact, during the process of obtaining “entropy”, ∑[(ΔQ)/T)] become∫dQ/T is untenable, therefore, the formula ∮dQ/T=0, ∮dW/T=0 and ∮dE/T=0 are untenable.
The“entropy”defined by Boltzmann is used to interpret “entropy” by Clausius, so, it is at the same time denied.


http://www.yudu.com/item/details/234797 ... l-Quantity



Hmmm...to my knowledge entropy was never claimed to be a physical quantity and has always been regarded as a statistical quantity. It is a compressed version of the number of possible configurations a system can realize. Please let me know what you think.

gloriacollins
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Re: Entropy:A concept that is not Physical Quantity

Postby gloriacollins » Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:52 am

Consider the sum of dQ/T = 0 at the given temp
so there is no work and heat loss

i.e

∑[(ΔQ)/T)] =0, so ∮dQ/T=0, ∮dW/T=0 and ∮dE/T=0.
This means that ∑(Q) = 0 for any isothermal cyclic process. No heat is formed and no work is consumed, so this is a reversible process. Why do you maintain that this is "unsustainable"?




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