sphy wrote:To this: Well don't waste your time and other's, nobody asked you to give any opinion about my music sense or get patronized and show it to others. Did any? You should better read the first post of this section by modernphysics. I am not saying you to listen to these. I just placed my interest as you have already done. And seriously man I don't like your music sense either, but I didn't mention that until you did.
My initial response to you was addressing your use of a phrase that is considered politically incorrect in the US and a recommendation to avoid certain usages. My last sentence suggesting you had poor taste in music was a reaction to the mild shock and amusement I found in the fact that you identified a number of bands as your favorites which would, at least by most domestic students, be a sufficiently embarassing omission. The fact that I made additional and more specific remarks beyond that original comment is only as a result of your failure to spot the clearly defined sarcasm in my initial post.
sphy wrote:You're always doubtful. They should not better read this.
You are disparaging them whatever medium you have right now,that's Physics GRE forum. If you were something like a cheap celebrity with your current state of mind then you would have called a press conference perhaps just to disparage them publicly.
I think I may have read too much into your previous comment. I assumed you meant that I was disparaging them and, therefore, discouraging the musicians. If all you really meant was that they had been disparaged then yeah, of course I did that. Had you meant to go anywhere with that comment or did you just want to remind me that I was speaking negatively about musicians I hold negative opinions for?
sphy wrote:The whole album tells you a continuous story so if you miss some songs then the story is left unfinished. And you don't get a better picture out of it. So I urge you to buy full album.
This is very, very rarely the case. I can only think of maybe 2 albums (with the exception of just about everything Coheed and Cambria wrote) that are so intricately tied together as to lose context by not having them in their entirety (i.e. Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd and American Idiot by Green Day). I certainly can't think of a single album that holds this continous storyline motif within the works of any musicians you listed. They may have a general theme by which most or even all of the songs are written about but that is hardly what you are arguing.
sphy wrote:And the shitty artists like yours whose names we have not heard of before don't know the music themselves and they don't have a story line about their album so if you select some songs of their album selectively, subjectively then that's ok. They wanted to sell those songs only. But if you buy their complete album I am sure you'll start hating them as well because you'll know they have nothing in their album. And that's why they don't have any international presence either. Because nobody listens to them except bunch of freaks whose opinion don't count at all.
First, since we all agree that labeling music as good or bad is subjective (read that again in case you are still confused on this point) it is a bit ridiculous for you to simply declare that anyone who likes a certain type of music is instantly disallowed from having a valid opinion.
Second, the musicians I've listed have a fairly significant international presence, especially considering that they aren't pop musicians and are not from the US and yet have a fairly significant following in both Europe and the Americas. For example, here is a video in which Andre 3000 of Outkast raves about Squarepusher
, or the wikipedia link in which Radiohead (one of your favorite bands) lists Aphex Twin as a major inspiration to their music
. Music by Aphex Twin, Squarepusher, Autechre and Boards of Canada are frequently featured on the BBC program Top Gear which is viewed internationally.
Third, you may wan't to reconsider your "international presence" argument since there are no Indian musicians with an international presence (with the possible exception of A.R. Rahman) and so insulting my musical tastes on this basis would require you to insult your own cultures music.
Fourth, I generally purchase albums in their entirety and then delete those songs I don't like or I listen through the entire album through online streaming and then purchase only the individual songs I like. I generally have a very good feel for how much I like or dislike my favorite musicians and I doubt I'll ever start to hate a musician just because their albums aren't flawless.
sphy wrote:Well here I agree with you. He is not but i liked his Symphony of Science project so I mentioned him. That's it.
It's not 'his' symphony of science project and the fact that someone thought to autotune his voice and include it among a number of other scientists voices in a song does not make Carl Sagan a musician or artist that should be listed among your favorite musicians. Assuming you are referring to the Symphony of Science videos created by 'Melodysheep', you could include Melodysheep in your favorites but it doesn't make any sense to cite Carl Sagan.
sphy wrote:em, What about R.P.Feynman? If He were not a great physicist, then you would perhaps go on abusing him.
If Feynman were not a great physicist and were an overrated musician, then yes I would 'abuse' him in the sense that I would call him overrated. What's your point?