crap, I added secander2! to the list but then the poll reset. Oh well, I guess it doesn't matter at this point since most of the others have left anyway and secander2! is on pace to be the leader of this class easily... he may even threaten twistor by next spring.
secander will be a valuable contributor since he already went through the app process before, (and also because he may shed some light on the writings of garden).